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Tom Edrington spent the first 10 years of his misguided youth as a sports writer for the Tampa Tribune. His career brought him face to face with many of sports greatest stars -- Arnold Palmer, Jack Nicklaus, Muhammad Ali, Don Shula, countless Hall of Fame NFL stars, more PGA Tour players than he can count. In 1980 he was honored by the Golf Writers Association of America for writing the best news story that year, his coverage of Jack Nicklaus' U.S. Open victory at Baltusrol. Today, 36 years later, golf is still a great part of his life, thanks to competitive playing days and the wonderful people he has met on this fabulous journey.

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    baxter cepeda

    Gamblers beware. The usga teased everyone with high rough at Olympic for the women’s US Open; Only to shave it quite a bit when they started keeping score. And they kept shaving it.
    My guess is 5 under.

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      Tom Edrington

      I think they are good with the graduated rough, you can be okay from the first and second cuts but the third and primary, well, it’s the “Dreaded Kikuyu” isn’t it?

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        baxter cepeda

        I think the usga needs to make those first and second cuts longer to rein in some of that distance. All you hear today is hut it as far as you can. This graduated rough system was great when Mike Davis started it but between technology, analytics, fitness, it’s time to bring back good players Fashion penal golf.
        I’d like to see the first cut longer. The second cut not so wide; maybe just a yard wide. And don’t cut anything else. It’s too late now but Torrey also needs more trees; especially Torrey pines.
        My kids just played a usga qualifier at friendly hills cc; which works it’s way through hills and canyons. Most holes gave the girls something to fear. Strategy, accuracy, we’re just as important as distance. You would think a US Open would be that and more. But what we will get is bombs away. That’s not golf. Something needs to change. I’m hopeful the usga unveils something this week to bring back medium to short hitters. Otherwise we can eliminate most of the field right now. Again, that’s not golf. That’s long drive.
        The usga has a long list of great winners recently but they are all of the same mold: bombers.
        Again, that’s not golf.

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          Tom Edrington

          I know a lot of instructors are telling kids to swing as hard as they can, they can work on accuracy later; Length has always been an advantage; Jack was basically the longest among the good players in his day, Tiger had stunning length in his prime; So it’s tough to be the best without length; Our first two major winning of 2021 have good length — Hideki and Phil…..so like it or not, in the men’s game, it’s a huge factor; In the women’s game, truth be known, most can only carry their driver a shade over 210 yards; Inbee is my favorite, I tell the rest of my “old fart” buddies that she’s living proof we can hit it 225 and score quite well; She’s a machine; Length gets Lexi noticed but she hacks it up with the short game. I think Patty Tavatanakit is the best combo of length and a good short game, she’s a really nice iron player as well…..so as your girls get older, get ’em in the gym!

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            baxter cepeda

            Agreed on the last part about the gym. We talk about that all the time. Some action on that regard but more is necessary. That and the cost of tech; and greens books; make me anxious.

            As for swinging hard early on in like My daughters good friend has been taught that as well but she lives in the woods. Now She’s like the expert of when fellow players should hit provisionals; cause she’s been there.

            I’m still of the Harvey Penick mentality of working back from the holes to make the best golfers; not long drivers whom cheese the game. This is definitely true in the women’s game but I believe eventually it will go back to mattering in the men’s game. Something gonna happen eventually.

            For this reason The women’s game is in a much better spot; similar to tennis. Today’s rackets make men’s tennis boring because most points are too short.

            Back to golf. In the men’s game technology has made too many courses obsolete to proper strategy; as you know…unless there is serious rough…but then they shave it down.

            For the US Open Imo it’s one thing to have graduated rough where the course was designed to play approach shots from; but on a 500 yard par 4 the rough just off the fairway should be waist high inside 200 yards to the hole; especially at a US Open.

            Sure players can hit it 400 yards but there should be much more risk then there is now.

            It truly is not the same game.

            Jack did his thing with wood heads. Tiger won many majors not hitting driver because even then his drives were not nearly as long as guys are now; And make no mistake no one in today’s game could hit it as far as Tiger in his peak using that technology.

            Men’s Golf has a technology problem; especially at the elite level. It’s worth noting again most golfers are not hitting the ball any further than they were 2 decades ago. It’s just these elite bombers whom are benefiting while the rest of us have to pay way too much to keep up with the Jones.

            It’s a mess really.

          2. Tom Edrington

            A lot of big names agree with you Baxter; People talk about how far the ball goes, if they went back to balata balls, these guys would be in a state of shock; When I was young (16-25) I could hit it 270-280 with persimmon, balata, which would make it 330 with this stuff they have now; Nicklaus warned a long time ago that they were letting the ball get out of control….now we see the results.

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