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Tom Edrington

Tom Edrington spent the first 10 years of his misguided youth as a sports writer for the Tampa Tribune. His career brought him face to face with many of sports greatest stars -- Arnold Palmer, Jack Nicklaus, Muhammad Ali, Don Shula, countless Hall of Fame NFL stars, more PGA Tour players than he can count. In 1980 he was honored by the Golf Writers Association of America for writing the best news story that year, his coverage of Jack Nicklaus' U.S. Open victory at Baltusrol. Today, 36 years later, golf is still a great part of his life, thanks to competitive playing days and the wonderful people he has met on this fabulous journey.

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    If you do the maths.. playing 14 liv events is 25% less golf than playing 14 pga tour events. Less wear and tear on the body.

    As to the sign on bonus cheques drying up, that also makes complete sense. As I mentioned in a comment on here weeks ago, the 48th guy to sign up isn’t getting $100m. The early jumpers took all the ‘risks’ and reap all the rewards.

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      Tom Edrington

      And boy, paying Phil Mickelson 100M plus to average 75 was a pretty good decision…..They’ve got a billion plus already in this fiasco, I don’t know any math that can make them “profitable”

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        baxter cepeda

        Time math will tell.
        History will show Paying Phil was a key decision IMO.


          Tom Edrington

          I see Phil opened with another 75, he’ll be great for team play — lol


            baxter cepeda

            Phil’s hiatus is kicking his ass.

            This does bring up a point:

            Lot of things to like about LIv but one major thing to dislike (aside from the political stuff):

            All 4 scores need to count on Sunday; day 2 gotta have at least 3 scores count. Maybe day 1 can still have only 2 count but that’s kinda lame but -again- by Sunday all 4 guys gotta play well to win.

            4 scores counting Sunday…That’s what can makes team pro golf different than say amateur/college.

            But anyways, Not to get too LIv geeky, but these Hi Flyers aren’t exactly amongst the favorites.

            Wolff is doing better but still looks off and gotta wonder if he is ever gonna get his head on straight again.

            weisberger and Harding are solid pros but the foursome clearly lacks compared to some of the other teams in star power form, depth, and chemistry as these 4 guys clearly have little to bind them.

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            All the various talk shows I listen to believe this is nothing more than an exhibition — Trump injecting himself into the proceedings detracts from any credibility they hoped for — free tickets, free beer? 2,000 fans on site? I guess folks weren’t all jazzed to go out and see Pat Perez!

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    baxter cepeda

    I’m sure your favorite talk shows are saying just that. If you listen to the establishment all you will hear is a broken record of catch phrases like “exhibition”. This is all part of their desperate attempts to protect the status quo.

    You like to use older ladies for your examples. Well My moms who doesn’t pay much attention to golf gets it with LIv. She understands the Saudi issues but aside from that she gets what LIv is doing. She knows the Saudis are no dummies in their investments.

    Mom actually watched more LIv
    Golf this weekend than she has watched golf since Phil beat Payne in Pinehurst; because of the cute Pager/baby story. LIv is much more digestible for casual viewers imo. The challenge for Liv will be their coverage not becoming like the pga tours coverage when the inevitable broadcast deal comes.

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      Tom Edrington

      Yes, thousands agree with you, millions agree with me…..

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        baxter cepeda

        I don’t know what the facts are on those numbers.

        All I know is lot of things in this saga that I —and folks like Forky— said would happen have happened while the millions of things the millions said wouldn’t happen have happened. Tom knows.

        IMHO, when the established media picks a side, perception of anything is very skewed. Media are supposed to present issues, but at this point in life they overtly drive people to think what they want people to think. LIv definitely has a problem with biased media. But they have so much damn money it really doesn’t matter. Eventually the media will obsess over some other issue getting clicks and LIv will continue its steady growth.

        People really don’t seem to understand how much money these guys have, how well organized their people are in their invents, And how little they are failing because they have the funds and the people to get things done.

        The Saudis have so much money they have to invest it into the world. Golf is but one small tiny thing these guys are going to be investing in that will move them and the world into the future. Like them or not, it is what it is.

        Meanwhile the pga tour and euros have half asleep Monahan and douchy blue rims Pelley. Good luck with that. Both these organizations truly need great leadership to clean up these twos mess …and they need it like yesterday. That’s almost a fact in my mind but it’s still just imho.


          Tom Edrington

          How much money have the Saudis given to local charities, the First Tee, PGA junior programs and other initiatives that actually seek to “grow the game” — quick answer — zero. Trump will be taking over at the events they are staging on his properties, not good for this exhibition, which now has a political side serving…..

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    baxter cepeda

    Don’t even get me started on first tee and especially the pga of America. Let’s just say the do some but they should be doing a whole lot more for young golf families considering the revenue he they make off the backs of everyone from the top golfers to humble pros and coaches.

    A lot of leadership roles in these organizations are overpaid while the people doing the work make less and less and families increasingly get charged more and more to get less and less.

    The pga tour should be running their own junior programs rather than giving just enough bucks To others In order to maintain their non profit status.

    All these organizations need to do a better job with sponsors to help support young golfers. Think about how many countries really support their athletes. In America even top athletes, especially golfers, feel like they are on their own.

    No arguments on Trump. When Trump left the Blue Monster it felt political. But not anymore.

    LIv have to figure out if he is worth it, which we can save them some time and say he is not.

    Maybe once he passes from this world his courses could be used again. But turning golf events into political shananigans by the man who fooled “special” people (his words to them) to attack our country, is downright idiotic.

    I know Shark doesn’t tune in for the news, but somebody has to talk some sense into him. LIv has its issues but Trump does not deserve the LIv forum just for providing a few courses. They clearly don’t need his money.

    Imo the Saudis and LIv should be developing 14 great courses that their team owners should own like stadiums. I’m still developing this idea…lol

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      Tom Edrington

      Wait until Wednesday when the “Ghost Of Dan Jenkins” sets you straight.

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