The Ryder Cup has become the subject of The Great Debate — and the mood of the players involved is suggesting that if there are no fans on site up there at Whistling Straits — the 2020 Ryder Cup should be postponed.
The world’s No. 1 player and the most high-profile member of the European team, believes that the Ryder Cup, will indeed be postponed.
“My personal hunch is that I don’t see how it is going to happen, so I don’t think it will happen. I think the majority of players would like to see it pushed back until 2021 so that they can play in front of crowds and have the atmosphere that makes the Ryder Cup so special.
“The players are the ones that make the Ryder Cup. If they are not on board with it and don’t want to play, then there is no Ryder Cup. I see it being pushed until 2021, and, honestly, I think that will be the right call.”
So said Rory McIlroy earlier this week.
Justin Thomas basically backed up Rory’s thoughts later in the week.
“I don’t think that’s a possibility,” J.T. said of the idea of playing the matches with no fans on site at Whistling Straits up there in (Herb) Kohler, Wisconsin.
With the compressed/revised/re-worked PGA Tour schedule, the Ryder Cup falls at an awkward time.
You have two straight weeks of FedEx Cup playoff events followed by the finale — the Tour Championship on September 4-7. The U.S. Open is slated to be played at Winged Foot starting on Sept. 17 with the Ryder Cup starting September 25 at Whistling Straits.
That’s a lot of golf for a player, like say, Tiger Woods. After going through the grind of the playoffs and the U.S. Open, it’s not out of the realm of possibility that Woods would be totally spent at Ryder Cup time.
There’s another huge name from the United States side who has already gone on the record to voice his skepticism over a no-spectators Ryder Cup.
“I personally don’t want to play (the Ryder Cup) if there’s no fans. I don’t see a point in playing it.”
So said world’s No. 3 — Brooks Koepka — currently the world’s top-ranked American.
This debate is nothing new. It started when the Corona Virus reared it’s ugly, contagious head.
What Graeme McDowell said back in March is that the majors should take total precedent.
“To me the major championships take priority over the Ryder Cup,” he said. “It’s only going to be a viable opportunity if we feel good about the qualifying process and we feel the teams are legitimate. It’s such a difficult question.”
Even Seth Waugh, CEO of the PGA Of America, which controls the Ryder Cup, has voiced concern.
“It’s hard to imagine one (Ryder Cup) without fans,” he said. “We have begun to talk about whether you could create some virtual fan experience, and we’re going to try to be as creative as we can. It’s to be determined, frankly, whether you could hold it without fans or not.”
Finally, McIlroy’s comments this week, fall in line with what he thought a couple of months ago.
“That’s from a European, going to America, knowing that I’m going to get abuse,” McIlroy said, “obviously it would be better for Europeans to play without fans because we wouldn’t deal with some of the stuff that you have to put up with, but at the same time, it wouldn’t be a great spectacle. There would be no atmosphere. So if it came to whether they had to choose between not playing the Ryder Cup of playing it without fans, I would say just delay it a year.”
There you have it.
Player sentiment is turning negative when it comes to a fan-less Ryder Cup.
It’s just too tough to imagine one without the noise, the flag-waving, the well-dressed Guardians Of The Cup and the throngs of Wisconsin fans primed to help the U.S. team get The Cup back in the good old U.S. of A.
We’re with Rory.
No fans?
Postpone the darn thing to next year.
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baxter cepeda
As I said a few days ago: just play the darn thing.
Tom forgot to mention the most recent comment from a big name: Paul Mcginley said it would be “pompous” to say no fans, no event.
The reigning winner as Ryder Cup captain mentioned how many sports will play huge events without fans. The Ryder Cup has become the most fan involved event In golf, but it still pales in comparison to the NBA finals, for example, where fans are literally allowed to distract players at the free throw line.
There absolutely are reasons to play the Ryder Cup regardless of fans; and we will get to those.
First scheduling the Ryder Cup the week after the US Open is downright idiotic. Considering some top players will jump ship from representing their country at the first sign of inconvenience quicker than Jane Roe, organizers should have seen this could be a problem. Personally I believe Tiger would be there exhausted or not, but some other names I worry about.
Also, let us not pretend the integrity of the Ryder Cup depends on fans. Rowdy fans are a recent phenomenon of the event which has been around since 1927, most years with few fans and mostly polite applause.
I don’t believe shushing and ‘I can’t hear ya! taunts we’re around even before Reed.
Even the 1991 War by the Shore Had little to do with fans, and a whole lot to do with players competitiveness and gamesmanship.
Imo that 91 Ryder Cup inspired the fans. If the players will act that way, why can’t we the fans?
But give television fans a well mic’ed Seve and Zinger situation arguing and questioning each others characters, and fans will be the last thing on fans minds.
Thousands of people pale in comparison to millions. Millions of People stuck at home need the entertainments more than ever. The typical golf grind does not provide casual sports fans the entertainment a Ryder Cup provides, fans or no fans. The Ryder Cup still has representing country, Mano a mano match play, and 24 of the best, going for itself.
Logistically hosting 24 popular players as opposed to 15o mostly no names makes a lot more sense to play now.
And then there’s the scheduling nightmares associated with pushing it back a year; something Rory May not be considering now.
What do you do with the Ryder Cup, Olympics and Presidents Cup all in the same year? Plus the many other events waiting to return next year?
While this is an argument about playing with no fans, as McGinley pointed out, there is a gray area to consider. There is a chance fans could still be allowed.
Considering Texas just announced yesterday it will allow 25% capacity at outdoor sporting events, Certainly there’s a very good chance at least some fans will be allowed in Wisconsin when the time comes. Super fans and their families strategically positioned for safety and fan impact would go a long way. Big Screens can show more fans virtually if needed.
There’s a whole bunch of things that can be done to make it a unique and very entertaining event. But like Rory said, if tired players do not want to play, you don’t have an event. He is right about that.
But Paul McGinley, as we learned in France, is the one with the real wisdom here, saying: Just play Baby!
Paul knows. Golf needs to take advantage of this time to sell itself. And fans or not, the best way to sell golf is the Ryder Cup.
Tom Edrington
I will stick with Rory and the guys on both sides, if the players aren’t up for it, neither am I!